This website is made and update by the owner known as Grumpy.
Welcome page with information with the next Section Contents:
*MAJOR CHANGE: For Grumpy's transportation
Welcome to Section B. Hope this site can be helpful to you.
Nov. 2022, this SITE had some changes because of some business changed ownership or out of Business befor the season of 2023.
Idyllwild is always changing, going thru the places listed to get better information on each.
With the COVID-19 all still around but no requirements.
A website on Idyllwild - called "Idyllwild, California" which has Translate website www.idyllwildcalifornia.com maybe help for you.
We have lost a few business that I marked TEMPORARY or PERMANENTLY CLOSED.
This website is to help you to your needs.
Use the bars at the top for the section of the list below:
Check the end of this section for information about MAYOR Max
There has been trail problems and closure from 2013 to the beginning of 2021 other than normal winter time weather conditions includes; fires closures areas, rock slides, down trees, storm washouts of trail & road, COVID closures/requirments. see the history of 2013-2021 section
All trails are open as of April 3, 2021!! All roads in the area have been repaired Jan. 2021
COVID NO requirements. for others conditions:
PCT Water Report
Twitter PCT weather updates can be sent by SMS to your phone if you text “follow @pctwx to 40404” even if you don’t have a twitter account. also, can get a print out at the Idyllwild Library.
Part One this will download to a pdf file
"San Jacinto Trail Report"
https://www.sanjacjon.com (Section B Only) Trail reports conditions, and water
"independently run by Jon King"
Jon makes this report does this by his labor and time is volunteered, the San Jacinto Trail Report (completely depends on small private donations to cover operating cost). The Donate page can be found on his report just at the end of the day report. (Zelle, Venmo, and PayPal)
He received a local award "Ernie Maxwell Community Spirit Award 2022" Recipient
Need Transportation for short trailheads or long trips: around problems [like closure or trail problem like weather] places to lodge, supplies, food, or medical?
Philosophy of This Site.
The Paths We Travel - Idyllwild
This is the place to get a great start for Section B.
A place on the Hwy 74 just one mile from the PCT mi. 151.
A place to find rides to Idyllwild and other place.
{Before you head for the high wilderness above 8,000 ft.}
As Idyllwild is a non-incorporated town, it has no human mayor. Upon his arrival to Idyllwild, Max was accompanied by two deputy mayors: Mikey and Mitzi (Mikey Mighty-Dog Mueller and Mitzi Marie Mueller). The trio is often referred to as "the Mayor and the spares" or simply "the Mayors of Idyllwild."
*Grumpy transpiration (951) 500-5954 Free-Tips check below for available
Steve's Transportation Service 1(702) 595-2502 $(see below also long distance)
Herk (951) 850-3746 Free
Marcia (951) 357-8509 (Tues/Wed/Thur)
Cierra (951) 322-2981 Before 10:00 am
Peal Car (951) 223-5812 24 hours local
Next section has a listing of roadways to leave this area:
MAJOR CHANGE: For Grumpy transpiration---Days of work will only be during "Thru hikers with thru permits": Still Free but will take tips!!!
The 2022 the sixth year (started 2017 part-time) :
1(951) 500-5954 talk or text only --no email --no VoiceMail
Will take a day in advance reservation by text.
Steve's Transportation Service 1(702) 595-2502
Idyllwild Transport (951) 265-6755
Terri French 1(619) 933-2306 {rates vary} plan ahead a set a time
Pearl Car Service 1 (951) 223-5812
Les 1(858) 866-6490
Next section has a listing of roadways to leave this area.
Discount Cab Taxi Valley Cab Banning
1 (951) 228-6858
There are Trail Angles for local trips and just a thumb with a pack gets friendly local residents - money not required but most will except tips.
Talk to people for other possibilities. Like Grumpy.
gothook?? new name this year ownership change "FarOut"
watch out not updated information - some are years ago information
Roads that you can use to pass around this of PCT Section B {of Idyllwild} or protions of the area other than hiking are:
[A] Hwy 74 at
Paradise Valley
turn on to Hwy 371 then
West on Hwy 79 to
Temecula
[Interstate 15]
[B] Hwy 74 at
Paradise Valley
East on Hwy 74 to
Palm Desert & Palm Springs to
[Hwy 111/Interstate 10]
[C] Hwy 74 at
Mountain Center
West on Hwy 74 to
Hemet
[Interstate 215]
[D] Hwy 243 at
Mountain Center
North @ Hwy 74 thru Idyllwild to
Banning.
[Interstate 10]
[E] Hwy 243 at
Idyllwild
North on Hwy 243 to
Banning
[Interstate 10]
[F] Int-10 at
Banning
East to Palm Springs or
West to Los Angles
Whitewater Canyon Road is open again this year 2020 then Closed during crisis!!
As a result, the Whitewater Preserve is open button for day use {my last timed checked Feb. 2021}, according to the Wildlands Conservancy.
Then lated open for PCT hikers.
1 (760) 325-7222
https://www.wildlandsconservancy.org/preserve_whitewater.html
I developed this site to help your trip in this section of the PCT. After a hundred plus miles from the south is my main focus {south to north} with many needs can develop on your challenge or a journey. Resupplying, replacing, and resting is the needed to complete the journey and hopefully without many instances.
The town of Idyllwild has services, stores, places to stay and friendly people who are willing to assist you towards your goal.
Oh, I am Steve. But I go by "GRUMPY" on and off the trail. It's not just a mood it's a lifestyle. I am not an trail angel, but an Angel Assistant and a section B web master. {44 years lived in Idyllwild} see Friendly People Section
Below picture, a look Eastward towards the town of Idyllwild at 5,397 ft. with the center part above the lowest part of the PCT in view at mi 179.4 - 8139 ft.
Some 180 or so miles from the boarder is the town of Idyllwild. I first seen this town before my teen years in the early 1960's. Since then I kept returning to enjoy the area and the high country unit May of 1978 which it became home.
SECTION B:
California Section B - 100 miles
Start - Hwy 79, mile 109.5 3,030 ft [near Warner Springs]
End - Hwy Interstate 10, mile 209.5 1,335 ft [near Cabazon]
Highest point at 9,048
The travel on the PCT after crossing Hwy. 74 at the 152 mile mark the route changes with elevation changes thru a mountain range of the San Jacinto with a peak 10,834 feet. The Pacific Crest Trail travels round the peak on the west side up to 9,000 feet. You start at Hwy 74 crossing mi. 151 at 4,900 feet to the highest part of the trail around mi. 182 and mi. 186
Weather becomes a problem in certain years making travel extreme for early in the year up to June. Normal moisture is 26.50
2016-2017 with 35.74 and 2018-2019 with 37.10 (February at 17.03 2nd wettest) created many rescues.
Last year 2020-2021 stared warm and dry until the end of Dec. 28. Then three storms at the end of Jan. a lot of snow and low elevations on some of the storms. Snow pack was very small and melted off early and fast.
But still below average amount of moisture. The year came out to a total 11.66.
Last year many fires for closures and late Summer to early Fall (October) closure because of the dangerous conditions for starting of fires.
This year 2021-2022 has a better state with July 2.32 with normal 0.63 but November we had zero with normal 2.35 and December 13 days with a 9.08 inches of moisture and some was snow about 4-5 inches normal is 4.04.
This gives a total 13.27 inches more than the whole last year.
This month January 2022 normal is 4.74) no moisture at 14th with no moisture for the next ten days. This is a normal if December is way over normal as this year. The rest of the year no idea.
The End of Section B:
Hwy10 - Interstate Hwy 10 - mi 209.5 - 1335 ft
Trail Angels are around for the season of Mar. to May.
Places that have some phone numbers are Idyllwild Inn, Silver Pines Lodge, {other places to stay has some limited transporting for their customers}, MountSan Jacinto State Park, San Jacinto Ranger District San Bernardino National Forest, Paradise Valley Cafe, Post Office and Normad Venture.
Locals residents help out too, only ask or put out a thumb with your pack.
Ask Mayor Max went he is in town. see the last part of this section.
Only public Transportation:
Except for the “IDYLLWILD SHUTTLE” on Mon. PALM DESERT & PALM SPRINGS & Wed. HEMET 1 (951) 426-9688 http://www.idyllwildshuttle.com
For other transportation push the button below (the information is on this page).
It is only one mile west of the hwy 74 crossing.
1(951-659-3663)
at hwy.74 151.9 mi mark go west one mile
The hours have changed due to the current criss, earlier closing time!!
Order while on the trail, package to go>
Come join us for a wonderful meal in the mountains. Located at the intersection of the 74 and 371 highways in Mountain Center, CA, we welcome Bikers, Hikers, and Horseback riders. Our dog friendly patio is a wonderful place to spend the afternoon. So whether you are coming from the desert, the mountains, or the beach, we are here to offer you the best food in a great environment.
Open daily 8am to 3pm
Can get rides to Idyllwild here by Trail Angels!
Water during opertion hours only - well water.
1 mile W of PCT of the hwy 74 crossing.
Welcome to Mayor Max's website.
Max (Maximus Mighty-Dog Mueller) was voted into office during an election held on June 11, 12, and 13, 2012 in Idyllwild, and was inaugurated to a one-year term on July 1, 2012.
As Idyllwild is a non-incorporated town, it has no human mayor. Idyllwild Animal Rescue Friends (ARF), a non-profit 501(c)(3), spons
Welcome to Mayor Max's website.
Max (Maximus Mighty-Dog Mueller) was voted into office during an election held on June 11, 12, and 13, 2012 in Idyllwild, and was inaugurated to a one-year term on July 1, 2012.
As Idyllwild is a non-incorporated town, it has no human mayor. Idyllwild Animal Rescue Friends (ARF), a non-profit 501(c)(3), sponsored Idyllwild's first-ever mayoral election. Any local resident was permitted to nominate his or her dog or cat. 14 dogs and 2 cats were nominated and ran for office. Constituents cast their votes via $1 donations each, and all $31,000 of the proceeds benefited ARF.
Max won a full two-thirds of the votes, and became Idyllwild's first mayor.
Max's popularity moved the people of Idyllwild to appeal to ARF for his continuation in office beyond his one-year term. On February 9, 2013, ARF announced the extension of his one-year term to a second and final year, ending on June 30, 2014.
On April 2, 2013, Mayor Max passed away. The successor for the remainder of Max's term, Maximus Mighty-Dog Mueller, II, arrived in Idyllwild on July 21, 2013. Idyllwild Animal Rescue Friends approved his mayoral transition plan.
Upon his arrival to Idyllwild, Max was accompanied by two deputy mayors: Mikey and Mitzi (Mikey Mighty-Dog Mueller and Mitzi Marie Mueller). The trio is often referred to as "the Mayor and the spares" or simply "the Mayors of Idyllwild."
Mayor Max, Deputy Mayor Mikey, and Deputy Mayor Mitzi are all related to Mayor Max, I; all four dogs share a common ancestor. Mikey and Mitzi are siblings from the same litter, and Max is a cousin of theirs. Mikey and Mitzi were born in Ohio, and Max was born in California.
In March of 2014, as the June 30 end of Max's term approached, ARF solicited the town's interest in holding another election. Once again, the people overwhelmingly pled for Mayor Max's continuation in perpetuity. Mayor Max and his two deputies, Mikey and Mitzi, continue to serve the town of Idyllwild.
Feel free to contact the Office of Mayor Max of Idyllwild at any time.
Office of the Mayor of Idyllwild
P.O. Box 1848
Idyllwild, California 92549
1(951) 659-0283 Mayor Headquarters Office
1(949) 525-0100 Phyllis Mueller Mobile
When you come, please be sure we meet! I am in town daily, but always welcome visitors and locals to call and arrange meet-ups.
Job Description
The Idyllwild Mayor shall do his/her best to be a positive representative for the communities of Idyllwild, Pine Cove, Fern Valley, and Mountain Center.
The Mayor shall:
- endeavor to promote this mountain community on and off the Hill.
- support commissioners in their projects.
- strive to be present at community events suc
Job Description
The Idyllwild Mayor shall do his/her best to be a positive representative for the communities of Idyllwild, Pine Cove, Fern Valley, and Mountain Center.
The Mayor shall:
- endeavor to promote this mountain community on and off the Hill.
- support commissioners in their projects.
- strive to be present at community events such as outdoor concerts, festivals, fairs, and the July 4 parade.
- do his/her best to accept invitations for official visits, such as ribbon cuttings, "mixers," etc.
- speak out on behalf of the animals of this mountain, domesticated and non-domesticated.
Has pasted on 2022
Mayor Max III arriving soon - story at
{Idyllwild "Town Crier" Vol. 77 No. 42 Thurs. Oct, 20, 2022}
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