PCT Trail was Closed for National Forest:
Section B 149.5 - 206.5 (57) miles Mtn. San Jacinto Area of the
San Bernardino National Forest open except
Section C is open now 234.5 - 361 (126.5 miles) San Bernardino Mountains
US National Forest Service
CONDITIONS:
Spilter Peak Trail & Junction 7047 ft mile 168.6 and
Fobes Ranch Trail & Junction 6002 ft mile 162.6
got a lot of snow on March 21-24 added from 4 inches at 4500 ft, Idyllwild around a foot {now 4-6 inches} above 6000 ft. over two feet. One person called for a ride on Sat. for the conditions were bad posthole and navigation difficulties and he then when to Black Mountain road to hike up to 191 mile.
Past before this storm: Many groups made to Fobes and Spitler Trails and left the PCT main trail before that last storm (for some it was the wind):
Two groups stated that next 6 miles needs the knowledge of use of special gear for the ice and snow conditions. The ones that called me for pick up:
Spilter Peak Trail Before March 21-24
Fobes Ranch Trail
HWY 74
Next Storm:
Wed.-Thur. March 29-30 and at Idyllwild 5200 ft. Wed. rain then snow thur. less than the last storm - The amount has change manay times
Watch out the last storm was more than the weather people said it would! It was a wet snow measured out at my house 4.5 moisture and above 6000 ft. moisture of 4.5 inches can be over feet of snow. 03/26/2023
NOTE: CHECK OUT THE: *UPDATE*
SPILTER PEAK TRAIL JUNCTION 168.6 MI 7047 FT
{Apple Canyon Road was flooded just before the Highway 74 at 6-8 inches), but now the water way was cleaned out and flowing through the two Coverts. 03/27/2023
NOTE: CHECK OUT THE:
BLACK MOUNTAIN ROAD TO 190.7 MI 7689 FT FOR ALTERNATE TRAIL ROUTES - TRAIL SECTION FOR DETAILS. [VS. 8000+ FT]
This area of high elevation and areas were sunlight is more limited because the direction it faces between here {Spilter Peak} to Tahquitz Valley is where rescue for badly injured and even death.
This area of higher elevation and of heavy snow pack of a year with major weather storms {past six feet or more} [this snow pack can last into June].
In Idyllwild This month:
March 1 was about 20 inches of snow made 30 inches plus on the ground.
March 10 & 11 was a two inches of rain up and beyond the 8,000 feet melting snow
March 14 & 15 was a two & half inches of rain up to 8,000 feet, but the snow level is slowly dropping.
March 21-24 had rain followed by 8 inches snow then later 4 more inches of snow over night {Total Moisture at my house in Idyllwild was over four inches}.
The Total this month [March] is 11.54 inches total moisture and 33 inches snow.
(I do the old year measure [July 1 to June 30] our total for Idyllwild 0ver 42+ inches total moisture this year and amount of 90 inches of snow).
[Total Moisture is melted down snow water and fallen rainwater.]
This website is made and update by the owner known as Grumpy.
Welcome page with information with the next Section Contents:
*MAJOR CHANGE: For Grumpy's transportation
Welcome to Section B. Hope this site can be helpful to you.
Nov. 2022, this SITE had some changes because of some business changed ownership or out of Business befor the season of 2023.
Idyllwild is always changing, going thru the places listed to get better information on each.
With the COVID-19 all still around but no requirements.
A website on Idyllwild - called "Idyllwild, California" which has Translate website www.idyllwildcalifornia.com maybe help for you but with translations - has limited information.
We have lost a few business that I marked TEMPORARY or PERMANENTLY CLOSED.
This website is to help you to your needs.
Use the bars at the top for the section of the list below:
Check the end of this section for information about MAYOR Max
There has been trail problems and closure from 2013 to the beginning of 2021 other than normal winter time weather conditions includes; fires closures areas, rock slides, down trees, storm washouts of trail & road, COVID closures/requirments. 2022 season problems where heat and lack of water [one person did die in Anza area]. see the history of 2013-2021 section.
{Note: that summer time California had more than normal summer weather include at hurricane turn to major topical storm. The end of July Whitney Portal and Onion Valley trail head roads where damage and closed for one to two weeks. Even Death Valley got flooded and closed down twice.}
Temporary Closure Listed above for the:
San Bernardino National Forest Closure March 3 to March 16
All trails are open as of April 3, 2021!!
All roads in the area have been repaired Jan. 2021
COVID NO requirements.
For others conditions:
PCT Water Report
Twitter PCT weather updates can be sent by SMS to your phone if you text “follow @pctwx to 40404” even if you don’t have a twitter account. also, can get a print out at the Idyllwild Library.
Part One this will download to a pdf file
"San Jacinto Trail Report"
https://www.sanjacjon.com (Section B Only) Trail reports conditions, and water
"independently run by Jon King"
Jon makes this report does this by his labor and time is volunteered, the San Jacinto Trail Report (completely depends on small private donations to cover operating cost). The Donate page can be found on his report just at the end of the day report. (Zelle, Venmo, and PayPal)
He received a local award "Ernie Maxwell Community Spirit Award 2022" Recipient
Need Transportation for short trips to/from trailheads or long trips: around problems areas [like closure or trail problem like weather], places to lodge, supplies, food, or medical?
Philosophy of This Site.
The Paths We Travel - Idyllwild
This is the place to get a great start for Section B.
A place on the Hwy 74 just one mile from the PCT mi. 151.
A place to find rides to/from Idyllwild and other place.
{Before you head for the high wilderness above 8,000 ft.}
As Idyllwild is a non-incorporated town, it has no human mayor. Upon his arrival to Idyllwild, in the past was"Max was accompanied by two deputy mayors: Mikey and Mitzi (Mikey Mighty-Dog Mueller and Mitzi Marie Mueller)." The change a new and younger Max "Max III" with his sister and started His duties on Dec. 10, 2022 after the passing of Max II.
These names say that they do transportation in this area. I can not verify and not responsible for their actions and services.
*Grumpy transportation (951) 500-5954 Free- Will that Tips Check below for available
Herk (951) 850-3746 Free
Marcia (951) 357-8509 (Tues/Wed/Thur)
Cierra (951) 322-2981 Before 10:00 am
Steve's Transportation Service 1(702) 595-2502 $(see below also long distance)
Idyllwild Services (951) 204-7895 No Saturdays $(see below also long distance)
Peal Car (951) 223-5812 24 hours local
Next section has a listing of roadways to leave this area:
MAJOR CHANGE: For Grumpy Trail Angel Service is: Still Free but will take tips!!!
Go to the section on Trail Info for details of these locations
1(951) 500-5954 talk or text only --no email --no VoiceMail
Will take a day in advance reservation by text.
These names say that they do transportation in this area. I can not verify and not responsible for their actions and services.
Steve's Transportation Service 1(702) 595-2502
Idyllwild Transport (951) 265-6755
Terri French 1(619) 933-2306 {rates vary} plan ahead a set a time
Idyllwild Services (951) 204-7895
Pearl Car Service 1 (951) 223-5812
Les 1(858) 866-6490
Next section has a listing of roadways to leave this area.
This is just a listing of a company off the mountain say it does service to this area.
Discount Cab Taxi Valley Cab Banning
1 (951) 228-6858
There are Trail Angles for local trips and just a thumb with a pack gets friendly local residents - money not required but most will except tips.
Talk to people for other possibilities. Like Grumpy.
If need to leave the mountain area by hitching go to Paradise Cafe on Hwy 74 East - takes down to the Hwy 111 Palm Desert for other transportation!! It is about 25 miles.
gothook?? new name this year ownership change "FarOut"
{watch out for not updated all the information - some are not up data for years ago}
Roads that you can use to pass around this of PCT Section B {of Idyllwild} or protions of the area other than hiking are:
[A] Hwy 74 at
Paradise Valley
turn on to Hwy 371 then
West on Hwy 79 to
Temecula
[Interstate 15]
[B] Hwy 74 at
Paradise Valley
East on Hwy 74 to
Palm Desert & Palm Springs to
[Hwy 111/Interstate 10]
[C] Hwy 74 at
Mountain Center
West on Hwy 74 to
Hemet
[Interstate 215]
[D] Hwy 243 at
Mountain Center
North @ Hwy 74 thru Idyllwild to
Banning.
[Interstate 10]
[E] Hwy 243 at
Idyllwild
North on Hwy 243 to
Banning
[Interstate 10]
[F] Int-10 at
Banning
East to Palm Springs or
West to Los Angles
Whitewater Canyon Road is open again after washout 2019 and due to the CVID-19 Closed during crisis!!
As a result, the Whitewater Preserve is open for day use {my last timed checked Feb. 2021}, according to the Wildlands Conservancy.
Then open for PCT hikers with staying over night.
1 (760) 325-7222
https://www.wildlandsconservancy.org/preserve_whitewater.html
I developed this site to help your trip in this section of the PCT. After a hundred plus miles from the south is my main focus {south to north} with many needs can develop on your challenge or a journey. Resupplying, replacing, and resting is the needed to complete the journey and hopefully without many instances.
The town of Idyllwild has services, stores, places to stay and friendly people who are willing to assist you towards your goal.
Oh, I am Steve. But I go by "GRUMPY" on and off the trail. It's not just a mood it's a lifestyle. I am not an trail angel, but an Angel Assistant and a section B web master. {44 years lived in Idyllwild} see Friendly People Section
Below picture, a look Eastward towards the town of Idyllwild at 5,397 ft. with the center part above the lowest part of the PCT in view at mi 179.4 - 8139 ft.
Some 180 or so miles from the boarder is the town of Idyllwild. I first seen this town before my teen years in the early 1960's. Since then I kept returning to enjoy the area and the high country unit May of 1978 which it became home.
SECTION B:
California Section B - 100 miles
Start - Hwy 79, mile 109.5 3,030 ft [near Warner Springs]
End - Hwy Interstate 10, mile 209.5 1,335 ft [near Cabazon]
Highest point at 9,048
The travel on the PCT after crossing Hwy. 74 at the 152 mile mark the route changes with elevation changes thru a mountain range of the San Jacinto with a peak 10,834 feet. The Pacific Crest Trail travels round the peak on the west side up to 9,000+ feet. You start at Hwy 74 crossing mi. 151 at 4,900 feet to the highest part of the trail around mi. 182 and mi. 186
Weather becomes a problem in certain years making travel extreme for early in the year up to June. Normal moisture is 26.3 Since 1929-1930
The extremes is the only way to understand the climate in Southern California:
{PCT 2021} Climate year 2020-2021 stared warm and dry until the end of Dec. 28. Then three storms at the end of Jan. a lot of snow and low elevations on some of the storms. Snow pack was very small and melted off early and fast.
{PCT 2022} climate year 2021-2022 has a better state with July 2.32 with normal 0.63 but November we had zero with normal 2.35 and then the moisture are most stopped. Next three months less than 1/3 of normal not and drying up the water sources.
{PCT 2023} Climate year 2022-2023 year with rain through the summer into the Autumn September had a hurricane came up off in the water towards Southern Calif. bring that month up to 3.46 inches and with a twice the normal November. Then came January with almost 14 inches of moisture:
The End of Section B:
Hwy10 - Interstate Hwy 10 - mi 209.5 - 1335 ft
Trail Angels are around for the season of Mar. to May.
Find some of the phone numbers can be found here and some have number some phone numbers like the place to stay at Paradise Valley Cafe (many just show up) and Normad Venture.
Only public Transportation:
Except for the “IDYLLWILD SHUTTLE” on Mon. PALM DESERT & PALM SPRINGS & Wed. HEMET 1 (951) 426-9688 http://www.idyllwildshuttle.com
For other transportation push the button below (the information is on this page).
It is only one mile west of the hwy 74 crossing.
New for 2023 season is a place across the is a house with special angel with:
1(951-659-3663)
at hwy.74 151.9 mi mark go west one mile
Order while on the trail, package to go>
Come join for a wonderful meal in the mountains. Located at the intersection of the 74 and 371 highways in Mountain Center, CA, we welcome Bikers, Hikers, and Horseback riders. Our dog friendly patio is a wonderful place to spend the afternoon. So whether you are coming from the desert, the mountains, or the beach, we are here to offer you the best food in a great environment.
Open daily:
Sunday 8am to 7pm
Mon-Tue 8am-3pm
Wed-Sat 8am-8pm
Can get rides to Idyllwild for here by Trail Angels!
Water during opertion hours only - well water.
1 mile W of PCT of the hwy 74 crossing.
Welcome to Mayor Max's website.
Max (Maximus Mighty-Dog Mueller) was voted into office during an election held on June 11, 12, and 13, 2012 in Idyllwild, and was inaugurated to a one-year term on July 1, 2012.
As Idyllwild is a non-incorporated town, it has no human mayor. Idyllwild Animal Rescue Friends (ARF), a non-profit 501(c)(3), spons
Welcome to Mayor Max's website.
Max (Maximus Mighty-Dog Mueller) was voted into office during an election held on June 11, 12, and 13, 2012 in Idyllwild, and was inaugurated to a one-year term on July 1, 2012.
As Idyllwild is a non-incorporated town, it has no human mayor. Idyllwild Animal Rescue Friends (ARF), a non-profit 501(c)(3), sponsored Idyllwild's first-ever mayoral election. Any local resident was permitted to nominate his or her dog or cat. 14 dogs and 2 cats were nominated and ran for office. Constituents cast their votes via $1 donations each, and all $31,000 of the proceeds benefited ARF.
Max won a full two-thirds of the votes, and became Idyllwild's first mayor.
Max's popularity moved the people of Idyllwild to appeal to ARF for his continuation in office beyond his one-year term. On February 9, 2013, ARF announced the extension of his one-year term to a second and final year, ending on June 30, 2014.
On April 2, 2013, Mayor Max passed away. The successor for the remainder of Max's term, Maximus Mighty-Dog Mueller, II, arrived in Idyllwild on July 21, 2013. Idyllwild Animal Rescue Friends approved his mayoral transition plan.
Upon his arrival to Idyllwild, Max was accompanied by two deputy mayors: Mikey and Mitzi (Mikey Mighty-Dog Mueller and Mitzi Marie Mueller). The trio is often referred to as "the Mayor and the spares" or simply "the Mayors of Idyllwild."
Mayor Max, Deputy Mayor Mikey, and Deputy Mayor Mitzi are all related to Mayor Max, I; all four dogs share a common ancestor. Mikey and Mitzi are siblings from the same litter, and Max is a cousin of theirs. Mikey and Mitzi were born in Ohio, and Max was born in California.
In March of 2014, as the June 30 end of Max's term approached, ARF solicited the town's interest in holding another election. Once again, the people overwhelmingly pled for Mayor Max's continuation in perpetuity. Mayor Max and his two deputies, Mikey and Mitzi, continue to serve the town of Idyllwild.
Feel free to contact the Office of Mayor Max of Idyllwild at any time.
Job Description
The Idyllwild Mayor shall do his/her best to be a positive representative for the communities of Idyllwild, Pine Cove, Fern Valley, and Mountain Center.
The Mayor shall:
- endeavor to promote this mountain community on and off the Hill.
- support commissioners in their projects.
- strive to be present at community events suc
Job Description
The Idyllwild Mayor shall do his/her best to be a positive representative for the communities of Idyllwild, Pine Cove, Fern Valley, and Mountain Center.
The Mayor shall:
- endeavor to promote this mountain community on and off the Hill.
- support commissioners in their projects.
- strive to be present at community events such as outdoor concerts, festivals, fairs, and the July 4 parade.
- do his/her best to accept invitations for official visits, such as ribbon cuttings, "mixers," etc.
- speak out on behalf of the animals of this mountain, domesticated and non-domesticated.
Has pasted on 2022
Mayor Max III arriving soon - story at
{Idyllwild "Town Crier" Vol. 77 No. 42 Thurs. Oct, 20, 2022}
Office of the Mayor of Idyllwild
P.O. Box 1848
Idyllwild, California 92549
1(951) 659-0283 Mayor Headquarters Office
1(949) 525-0100 Phyllis Mueller Mobile
On September 5, 2022, Mayor Max, III was born. He arrived home on November 6, 2022, along with his sister, Meadow. Mayor Max, III's debut to Idyllwild and c
Office of the Mayor of Idyllwild
P.O. Box 1848
Idyllwild, California 92549
1(951) 659-0283 Mayor Headquarters Office
1(949) 525-0100 Phyllis Mueller Mobile
On September 5, 2022, Mayor Max, III was born. He arrived home on November 6, 2022, along with his sister, Meadow. Mayor Max, III's debut to Idyllwild and commencement of duties was on December 10, 2022.
Mayor Max, III continues to serve the town of Idyllwild, along with Vice Mayor Meadow, Deputy Mayor Mikey, and Deputy Mayor Mitzi.
When you come, please be sure we meet! I am in town daily, but always welcome visitors and locals to call and arrange meet-ups.
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