Welcome - Content of the Site -with Transportation and Mayor
WELCOME TO THE IDYLLWILD AREA - SEC. B *Grumpy just had his 70 Birthday* Special see below
MAJOR CHANGE: Days of work will only be during Thru hikers with thru permits: Still Free but will take tips!!!
North Bound March 10 up to Memorial day weekend. Minus holidays and vacation time. {vacation time is the first week of April.
South Bound October 1up to New Years day. Minus holidays and vacation time. Vacation time is the Thanksgiving.
The 2022 years 1220 people transferred some where both ways counted twice (230 trips for the run of one mile 151 mi - hwy 74 to/or from the cafe) plus with 14,000 miles - plus some 12 or so days up to 12 hours.
It is time to cut back a little which means the number of days (but first start still will be at 7:00 AM and 3 hours off to go to Churh on Sunday. That also means only thru hikers at any time.
1(951) 500-5954 talk or text only no email no VoiceMail Will take a day in advance by text.
I am currently on a long Summer vaction>
WELCOME TO THE IDYLLWILD AREA - SECTION B - Content Topics
Welcome to Section B. Hope this site can be helpful to you. CURRENTLY THIS SITE WENT THRU A MAJOR CHANGE and now going thru the places listed to get better information on each. With the COVID-19 changing everything sometimes daily will change how each location will change. This is the days open and hours and at times closed for a day or days.
A site on Idyllwild - called "Idyllwild, California" which has Translate website www.idyllwildcalifornia.com maybe help for you. I just found out about this site when I was double checking a website for "mile high cafe" just place me on this site _{found the correct website for "mile high cafe)..
We have lost a few business that I marked PERMANENTLY CLOSED. One family owns 5 restaurants and times will have one or more of them will be closed a day or more without any notice.
Even will not post at that location that it is closed and for how long. This has been improving as time goes on.
The information on places to use is still changing because of the COVID-19 still effects the business. Check the CDC for current restrictions at each level from the National, State, to the County. Things change to fast to post here.
This web site to help you to your needs. Use the bars at the top for the section of the list below:
- Home - This Section
- TRAIL & WATER Current Condition & Web sites
- Need Transportation for long trips
- About This Site Philosophy and Idyllwild Area
- Start this section by starting at Paradise Valley Cafe
- Words about - MAYOR MAX
- Place to Stay
- IDYLLWILD INN, SILVER PINES LODGE, IDYLLWILD BUNKHOUSE, FIRESIDE INN, BLUEBIRD COTTAGE INN,
- these were the main ones open last year serving the PCT hikers during COVID-19
- Most of the others are now open - are listed in this section
- Place to Eat:
- Many places have indoor seating
- Many have outside seating
- most can order in person, or call in and web for take out
- Some only have window service Inside or outside for only for take-out.
- days and hours are changing daily {call first}
- Stores
- groceries stores, equipment, boots, clothes, and gifts
- Nomad Ventures for Mountain Equipag - gear and etc.
- most stores are open
- Services - Government and Business
- Government Parks - US Forest, State, County
- Government: Fire Department, Library & Post Office
- Business Medical Services:
- Doctor, Dentist and Pharmacy
- Massage, Chiropractic, & Acupuncture
- Other Business:
- Hair Care, Laundry & Local Shuttle
- Trail Info - go to this section for details Including Desciption of Section B
- Exit/Entry Trail, Alternate Route & maps
- with Four Alternate Routes
- Trail History for 2013 to 2021
- Fire, Rock Fall, and Roads damaged from a major rainfall (Feb. 14, 2019
- Friendly
- Transportion for off the mountain
Check the end of this section for information about MAYOR Max
TRAIL & WATER Current Condition & Web sites for Sect B -All roads are open! and Trails are Open!
Trail Problems & Closures:
There has been trail problems and closure from 2013 to the beginning of 2021 other than normal winter time weather conditions. see the history of 2013-2021 section
All trails are open as of April 3, 2021!! All roads in the area have been repaired Jan. 2021
PCT Water Report
Twitter PCT weather updates can be sent by SMS to your phone if you text “follow @pctwx to 40404” even if you don’t have a twitter account. also, can get a print out at the Idyllwild Library.
Part One this will download to a pdf file
"San Jacinto Trail Report" (for Section B Only) Trail reports conditions, and water
"independently run by Jon King"
Jon makes this report does this by his labor and time is volunteered, the San Jacinto Trail Report completely depends on small private donations to cover operating cost. You can visit the Donate page if you have found that his report was useful. Just at the end of the day report.
All major roads in the area are open as of Nov. 01, 2019 with Hwy 243 and Jan. 2021 the last one to finish with repairs.
A GUIDE TO THIS FIRST SECTION
Need Transportation for short trailheads or long trips?:
Need Transportation for short trailheads or long trips: around problems [like closure or trail problem like weather] places to lodge, supplies, food, or medical?
About This Site
Philosophy of This Site.
The Paths We Travel - Idyllwild
Start this section by starting at Paradise Valley Cafe
This is the place to get a great start for Section B.
A place on the Hwy 74 just one mile from the PCT mi. 151.
A place to find rides to Idyllwild and other place.
{Before you head for the high wilderness above 8,000 ft.}
Words about - MAYOR MAX
As Idyllwild is a non-incorporated town, it has no human mayor. Upon his arrival to Idyllwild, Max was accompanied by two deputy mayors: Mikey and Mitzi (Mikey Mighty-Dog Mueller and Mitzi Marie Mueller). The trio is often referred to as "the Mayor and the spares" or simply "the Mayors of Idyllwild."
Need Transportation for short trailheads or long trips?:
Local persons that are Trail Angels for transportation of the mountain areas trailheads and town:
Grumpy (951) 500-5954 Free-Tips check above for when available
Herk (951) 850-3746 Free
Marcia (951) 357-8509 (Tues/Wed/Thur)
Cierra (951) 322-2981 Before 10:00 am
Peal Car (951) 223-5812 24 hours local
Next section has a listing of roadways to leave this area.
Local persons that does rides for a price [Fee] off the mountain area:
Steve's Transportation Service 1(951) 659-4335 (9-5) at Silver Pines Lodge ask for Steve 0r (702) 595-2502
- Local trailheads
- Idyllwild to Banning or I-10 Trailhead PCT
- Other long distance locations
Idyllwild Transport (951) 265-6755
- Airports ONT & PSP
Terri French 1(619) 933-2306 {rates vary} plan ahead a set a time
- Idyllwild to Banning or I-10 Trailhead PCT
- to airports like at Palm Springs
Pearl Car Service 1 (951) 223-5812
- Idyllwild to Banning-I-10 Trailhead PCT
- or other locations
Les 1(858) 866-6490
- Airport only (LAX-SD-PS-ONY)
Next section has a listing of roadways to leave this area.
Off the Mountain Transportation Service:
Discount Cab Taxi Valley Cab Banning
1 (951) 228-6858
- Plan ahead to set a time
- up to seven
- Idylwild to Banning Or I-10 Trailhead PCT
- (around $60 2021 price)
Other Ideas to look at:
There are Trail Angles for local trips and just a thumb with a pack gets friendly local residents - money not required but most will except tips.
- Check around with the Lodging place have numbers of people to help out
Talk to people for other possibilities. Like Grumpy.
gothook?? new name this year ownership change "FarOut"
watch out not updated information - some are years ago information
About This Site
Philosophy of This Site.
I developed this site to help your trip in this section of the PCT. After a hundred plus miles from the south is my main focus {south to north} with many needs can develop on your challenge or a journey. Resupplying, replacing, and resting is the needed to complete the journey and hopefully without many instances.
The town of Idyllwild has services, stores, places to stay and friendly people who are willing to assist you towards your goal.
Oh, I am Steve. But I go by "GRUMPY" on and off the trail. It's not just a mood it's a lifestyle. I am not an trail angel, but an Angel Assistant and a section B web master. {44 years lived in Idyllwild} see Friendly People Section
Below picture, a look Eastward towards the town of Idyllwild at 5,397 ft. with the center part above the lowest part of the PCT in view at mi 179.4 - 8139 ft.
The Paths We Travel - Idyllwild
Some 180 or so miles from the boarder is the town of Idyllwild. I first seen this town before my teen years in the early 1960's. Since then I kept returning to enjoy the area and the high country unit May of 1978 which it became home.
SECTION B:
California Section B - 100 miles
Start - Hwy 79, mile 109.5 3,030 ft [near Warner Springs]
End - Hwy Interstate 10, mile 209.5 1,335 ft [near Cabazon]
Highest point at 9,048
The travel on the PCT after crossing Hwy. 74 at the 152 mile mark the route changes with elevation changes thru a mountain range of the San Jacinto with a peak 10,834 feet. The Pacific Crest Trail travels round the peak on the west side up to 9,000 feet. You start at Hwy 74 crossing mi. 151 at 4,900 feet to the highest part of the trail around mi. 182 and mi. 186
- [CS0181B - Several campsites - mi 181.3 - 9048 ft] &
- [WR186B - N Fork San Jacinto River Tributary - mi 186.2 - 8947 ft]. from the mi. 174 to mi. 190 is above 8,000 ft.
Weather becomes a problem in certain years making travel extreme for early in the year up to June. Normal moisture is 26.50
2016-2017 with 35.74 and 2018-2019 with 37.10 (February at 17.03 2nd wettest) created many rescues.
Last year 2020-2021 stared warm and dry until the end of Dec. 28. Then three storms at the end of Jan. a lot of snow and low elevations on some of the storms. Snow pack was very small and melted off early and fast.
But still below average amount of moisture. The year came out to a total 11.66.
Last year many fires for closures and late Summer to early Fall (October) closure because of the dangerous conditions for starting of fires.
This year 2021-2022 has a better state with July 2.32 with normal 0.63 but November we had zero with normal 2.35 and December 13 days with a 9.08 inches of moisture and some was snow about 4-5 inches normal is 4.04.
This gives a total 13.27 inches more than the whole last year.
This month January 2022 normal is 4.74) no moisture at 14th with no moisture for the next ten days. This is a normal if December is way over normal as this year. The rest of the year no idea.
The End of Section B:
Hwy10 - Interstate Hwy 10 - mi 209.5 - 1335 ft
Trail Angels are around for the season of Mar. to May.
Places that have some phone numbers are Idyllwild Inn, Silver Pines Lodge, {other places to stay has some limited transporting for their customers}, MountSan Jacinto State Park, San Jacinto Ranger District San Bernardino National Forest, Paradise Valley Cafe, Post Office and Normad Venture.
Locals residents help out too, only ask or put out a thumb with your pack.
Ask Mayor Max went he is in town. see the last part of this section.
Only public Transportation:
Except for the “IDYLLWILD SHUTTLE” on Mon. PALM DESERT & PALM SPRINGS & Wed. HEMET 1 (951) 426-9688 http://www.idyllwildshuttle.com
For other transportation push the button below (the information is on this page).
Start this section by starting at Paradise Valley Cafe
This is the place to get a great start for Section B
It is only one mile west of the hwy 74 crossing.
- To get water
- To get great food
- A place to stay over night
- Great people
- Find out the current trail information
- Transportion by Trail Angels stop here and can cafe staff has numbers to call for rides
- Use this web to call in to res. places to stay [ATT connection and no wi-fi]
- Other great things can happen here
- Sometimes you can see GRUMPY-Steve checking the place out for what is needed
- Just a great place!!!!
Paradise Valley Cafe
1(951-659-3663)
at hwy.74 151.9 mi mark go west one mile
The hours have changed due to the current criss, earlier closing time!!
Order while on the trail, package to go>
Come join us for a wonderful meal in the mountains. Located at the intersection of the 74 and 371 highways in Mountain Center, CA, we welcome Bikers, Hikers, and Horseback riders. Our dog friendly patio is a wonderful place to spend the afternoon. So whether you are coming from the desert, the mountains, or the beach, we are here to offer you the best food in a great environment.
Open daily 8am to 3pm
Can get rides to Idyllwild here by Trail Angels!
Water during opertion hours only - well water.
1 mile W of PCT of the hwy 74 crossing.
Words about - MAYOR MAX found lately in town around 4pm
Mayor Max, I (the first) visited with Kirsten Garrett of Menifee, California on July 21, 2012.
Mayor Max, II, Deputy Mayor Mitzi, and Deputy Mayor Mikey with Idyllwild visitors, November, 2013
Mayor Max, I (the first) visited with Kirsten Garrett of Menifee, California on July 21, 2012.
Welcome to Mayor Max's website.
Max (Maximus Mighty-Dog Mueller) was voted into office during an election held on June 11, 12, and 13, 2012 in Idyllwild, and was inaugurated to a one-year term on July 1, 2012.
As Idyllwild is a non-incorporated town, it has no human mayor. Idyllwild Animal Rescue Friends (ARF), a non-profit 501(c)(3), spons
Welcome to Mayor Max's website.
Max (Maximus Mighty-Dog Mueller) was voted into office during an election held on June 11, 12, and 13, 2012 in Idyllwild, and was inaugurated to a one-year term on July 1, 2012.
As Idyllwild is a non-incorporated town, it has no human mayor. Idyllwild Animal Rescue Friends (ARF), a non-profit 501(c)(3), sponsored Idyllwild's first-ever mayoral election. Any local resident was permitted to nominate his or her dog or cat. 14 dogs and 2 cats were nominated and ran for office. Constituents cast their votes via $1 donations each, and all $31,000 of the proceeds benefited ARF.
Max won a full two-thirds of the votes, and became Idyllwild's first mayor.
Max's popularity moved the people of Idyllwild to appeal to ARF for his continuation in office beyond his one-year term. On February 9, 2013, ARF announced the extension of his one-year term to a second and final year, ending on June 30, 2014.
On April 2, 2013, Mayor Max passed away. The successor for the remainder of Max's term, Maximus Mighty-Dog Mueller, II, arrived in Idyllwild on July 21, 2013. Idyllwild Animal Rescue Friends approved his mayoral transition plan.
Upon his arrival to Idyllwild, Max was accompanied by two deputy mayors: Mikey and Mitzi (Mikey Mighty-Dog Mueller and Mitzi Marie Mueller). The trio is often referred to as "the Mayor and the spares" or simply "the Mayors of Idyllwild."
Mayor Max, Deputy Mayor Mikey, and Deputy Mayor Mitzi are all related to Mayor Max, I; all four dogs share a common ancestor. Mikey and Mitzi are siblings from the same litter, and Max is a cousin of theirs. Mikey and Mitzi were born in Ohio, and Max was born in California.
In March of 2014, as the June 30 end of Max's term approached, ARF solicited the town's interest in holding another election. Once again, the people overwhelmingly pled for Mayor Max's continuation in perpetuity. Mayor Max and his two deputies, Mikey and Mitzi, continue to serve the town of Idyllwild.
Feel free to contact the Office of Mayor Max of Idyllwild at any time.
Mayor Max, II aka: Maximus Mighty-Dog Mueller, II
Mayor Max, II, Deputy Mayor Mitzi, and Deputy Mayor Mikey with Idyllwild visitors, November, 2013
Mayor Max, I (the first) visited with Kirsten Garrett of Menifee, California on July 21, 2012.
Office of the Mayor of Idyllwild
P.O. Box 1848
Idyllwild, California 92549
1(951) 659-0283 Mayor Headquarters Office
1(949) 525-0100 Phyllis Mueller Mobile
When you come, please be sure we meet! I am in town daily, but always welcome visitors and locals to call and arrange meet-ups.
Mayor Max, II, Deputy Mayor Mitzi, and Deputy Mayor Mikey with Idyllwild visitors, November, 2013
Mayor Max, II, Deputy Mayor Mitzi, and Deputy Mayor Mikey with Idyllwild visitors, November, 2013
Mayor Max, II, Deputy Mayor Mitzi, and Deputy Mayor Mikey with Idyllwild visitors, November, 2013
Job Description
The Idyllwild Mayor shall do his/her best to be a positive representative for the communities of Idyllwild, Pine Cove, Fern Valley, and Mountain Center.
The Mayor shall:
- endeavor to promote this mountain community on and off the Hill.
- support commissioners in their projects.
- strive to be present at community events suc
Job Description
The Idyllwild Mayor shall do his/her best to be a positive representative for the communities of Idyllwild, Pine Cove, Fern Valley, and Mountain Center.
The Mayor shall:
- endeavor to promote this mountain community on and off the Hill.
- support commissioners in their projects.
- strive to be present at community events such as outdoor concerts, festivals, fairs, and the July 4 parade.
- do his/her best to accept invitations for official visits, such as ribbon cuttings, "mixers," etc.
- speak out on behalf of the animals of this mountain, domesticated and non-domesticated.