Welcome - Content of the Site -with Transportation and Mayor
WELCOME TO THE IDYLLWILD AREA - SECTION B All Trails and Roads Open
This website is made and update by the owner known as Grumpy.
Welcome page with information with the next Section Contents:
- Trail & Water Current Conditions & website
- Transportation Short & Long
- On PCT to - Exit/Entry for Section B
- About This Site
- Paradise Valley Cafe
- Mayor Max
*MAJOR CHANGE: For Grumpy's transportation
- Section below "Need Transportation for short trailheads or long trips?:"
WELCOME TO THE IDYLLWILD AREA - SECTION B - Content Topics
Welcome to Section B. Hope this site can be helpful to you.
Nov. 2022, this SITE had some changes because of some business changed ownership or out of Business befor the season of 2023.
Idyllwild is always changing, going thru the places listed to get better information on each.
With the COVID-19 all still around but no requirements.
A website on Idyllwild - called "Idyllwild, California" which has Translate website www.idyllwildcalifornia.com maybe help for you.
We have lost a few business that I marked TEMPORARY or PERMANENTLY CLOSED.
This website is to help you to your needs.
Use the bars at the top for the section of the list below:
- Home - This Section
- TRAIL & WATER Current Condition & Web sites
- Need Transportation for short trailheads & long trips
- About This Site Philosophy and Idyllwild Area
- Start this section by starting at Paradise Valley Cafe
- Words about - MAYOR MAX
- Place to Stay
- they are listed by distance from the center of town to outwards
- IDYLLWILD INN, SILVER PINES LODGE, IDYLLWILD BUNKHOUSE, FIRESIDE INN, BLUEBIRD COTTAGE INN,
- these were the main ones open last 2021 serving the PCT hikers during COVID-19
- Others reopened in 2022
- they are listed by distance from the center of town to outwards
- Place to Eat:
- They are listed in groups of same type of business (restaurants, cafe ...etc.)
- Most locations have indoor seating and with outside covered/open
- Some only have window service Inside or outside for only for take-out.
- Most locations can be order in person, or call in and/or web for take out
- days and hours are changing daily {call first}
- They are listed in groups of same type of business (restaurants, cafe ...etc.)
- Stores
- groceries stores, equipment, boots, clothes, and gifts
- Nomad Ventures for Mountain Equipag - gear and etc.
- most stores are open
- Services - Government and Business
- Government Parks - US Forest, State, County
- Government: Fire Department, Library & Post Office
- Business Medical Services:
- Doctor (1), Dentist (2) and Pharmacy
- Massage, Chiropractic, & Acupuncture
- Other Business:
- Hair Care, Laundry & Local Shuttle
- Trail Info - go to this section for details Including Desciption of Section B
- Exit/Entry Trail, Alternate Route & maps
- with Four Alternate Routes - Because of weather and/or trail condition
- Trail History for 2013 to 2021
- Fire (2013 & 2015 major closures), Rock Fall (the big one -May 2019 to June 2021), and Weather - Roads damaged from a major rainfall (the big one day Feb. 14, 2019 eight plus inches)
- also it effect the roads - closed and/or one-way traffic for repair
- Friendly
- Transportion for off the mountain
Check the end of this section for information about MAYOR Max
- Mayor Max III takes office Dec. 10, 2022
TRAIL & WATER Current Condition & Web sites for Sect B -All roads are open! and Trails are Open!
- Trail Problems & Closures:
There has been trail problems and closure from 2013 to the beginning of 2021 other than normal winter time weather conditions includes; fires closures areas, rock slides, down trees, storm washouts of trail & road, COVID closures/requirments. see the history of 2013-2021 section
All trails are open as of April 3, 2021!! All roads in the area have been repaired Jan. 2021
COVID NO requirements. for others conditions:
PCT Water Report
Twitter PCT weather updates can be sent by SMS to your phone if you text “follow @pctwx to 40404” even if you don’t have a twitter account. also, can get a print out at the Idyllwild Library.
Part One this will download to a pdf file
"San Jacinto Trail Report"
https://www.sanjacjon.com (Section B Only) Trail reports conditions, and water
"independently run by Jon King"
Jon makes this report does this by his labor and time is volunteered, the San Jacinto Trail Report (completely depends on small private donations to cover operating cost). The Donate page can be found on his report just at the end of the day report. (Zelle, Venmo, and PayPal)
- He started making a trail report (hard copy) bulletins that Jon provided to local rangers to distribute to hikers.
He received a local award "Ernie Maxwell Community Spirit Award 2022" Recipient
- The award is given to recognize, effect on the community. The honor is given to an inidividual or group who represents EMax's spirit of community and volunteerism. Prior awardees took actions that created a spark sufficient to bring others into the fray just as Maxwell did with his activities involving the environment. {go to the story about Jon King for more}
- Idyllwild "Town Crier" Vol. 77 No. 42 Thurs. Oct, 20, 2022}
A GUIDE TO THIS FIRST SECTION
Need Transportation for short trailheads or long trips?:
Need Transportation for short trailheads or long trips: around problems [like closure or trail problem like weather] places to lodge, supplies, food, or medical?
About This Site
Philosophy of This Site.
The Paths We Travel - Idyllwild
Start this section by starting at Paradise Valley Cafe
This is the place to get a great start for Section B.
A place on the Hwy 74 just one mile from the PCT mi. 151.
A place to find rides to Idyllwild and other place.
{Before you head for the high wilderness above 8,000 ft.}
Words about - MAYOR MAX
As Idyllwild is a non-incorporated town, it has no human mayor. Upon his arrival to Idyllwild, Max was accompanied by two deputy mayors: Mikey and Mitzi (Mikey Mighty-Dog Mueller and Mitzi Marie Mueller). The trio is often referred to as "the Mayor and the spares" or simply "the Mayors of Idyllwild."
Need Transportation for short trailheads or long trips?:
Local persons that are Trail Angels for transportation of the mountain areas trailheads and town:
*Grumpy transpiration (951) 500-5954 Free-Tips check below for available
Steve's Transportation Service 1(702) 595-2502 $(see below also long distance)
Herk (951) 850-3746 Free
Marcia (951) 357-8509 (Tues/Wed/Thur)
Cierra (951) 322-2981 Before 10:00 am
Peal Car (951) 223-5812 24 hours local
Next section has a listing of roadways to leave this area:
- Exit/Entry locations to major road travel
*Grumpy just had his 70 Birthday* Oh yes this is my website!!
MAJOR CHANGE: For Grumpy transpiration---Days of work will only be during "Thru hikers with thru permits": Still Free but will take tips!!!
- 7 days a week {Sun 7am & 8am trips then Noon on)
- 7am to Sunset (or 7pm) what is first
- North Bound: March 10 up to Memorial day weekend. Minus holidays and vacation time. {vacation time is the first week of April.}
- South Bound: Mid-October to New Years day. Minus holidays and vacation time. Vacation time is the Thanksgiving.
- for trailheads mile 151 Hwy 74 to Black Mountain Road at Hwy 243.
The 2022 the sixth year (started 2017 part-time) :
- 1220 people transferred somemore than once
- (230 trips) for the run of one mile 151 mi - hwy 74 to/or from the cafe) plus with total over 14,000 miles travel
1(951) 500-5954 talk or text only --no email --no VoiceMail
Will take a day in advance reservation by text.
Local persons that does rides for a price [Fee] off the mountain area:
Steve's Transportation Service 1(702) 595-2502
- Local trailheads
- Idyllwild to Banning or I-10 Trailhead PCT
- Other long distance locations
Idyllwild Transport (951) 265-6755
- Airports ONT & PSP
Terri French 1(619) 933-2306 {rates vary} plan ahead a set a time
- Idyllwild to Banning or I-10 Trailhead PCT
- to airports like at Palm Springs
Pearl Car Service 1 (951) 223-5812
- Idyllwild to Banning-I-10 Trailhead PCT
- or other locations
Les 1(858) 866-6490
- Airport only (LAX-SD-PS-ONY)
Next section has a listing of roadways to leave this area.
Off the Mountain Transportation Service:
Discount Cab Taxi Valley Cab Banning
1 (951) 228-6858
- Plan ahead to set a time
- up to seven
- Idylwild to Banning Or I-10 Trailhead PCT
- (around $60 2021 price)
Other Ideas to look at:
There are Trail Angles for local trips and just a thumb with a pack gets friendly local residents - money not required but most will except tips.
- Check around with the Lodging place have numbers of people to help out
Talk to people for other possibilities. Like Grumpy.
gothook?? new name this year ownership change "FarOut"
watch out not updated information - some are years ago information
About This Site
Philosophy of This Site.
I developed this site to help your trip in this section of the PCT. After a hundred plus miles from the south is my main focus {south to north} with many needs can develop on your challenge or a journey. Resupplying, replacing, and resting is the needed to complete the journey and hopefully without many instances.
The town of Idyllwild has services, stores, places to stay and friendly people who are willing to assist you towards your goal.
Oh, I am Steve. But I go by "GRUMPY" on and off the trail. It's not just a mood it's a lifestyle. I am not an trail angel, but an Angel Assistant and a section B web master. {44 years lived in Idyllwild} see Friendly People Section
Below picture, a look Eastward towards the town of Idyllwild at 5,397 ft. with the center part above the lowest part of the PCT in view at mi 179.4 - 8139 ft.
The Paths We Travel - Idyllwild
Some 180 or so miles from the boarder is the town of Idyllwild. I first seen this town before my teen years in the early 1960's. Since then I kept returning to enjoy the area and the high country unit May of 1978 which it became home.
SECTION B:
California Section B - 100 miles
Start - Hwy 79, mile 109.5 3,030 ft [near Warner Springs]
End - Hwy Interstate 10, mile 209.5 1,335 ft [near Cabazon]
Highest point at 9,048
The travel on the PCT after crossing Hwy. 74 at the 152 mile mark the route changes with elevation changes thru a mountain range of the San Jacinto with a peak 10,834 feet. The Pacific Crest Trail travels round the peak on the west side up to 9,000 feet. You start at Hwy 74 crossing mi. 151 at 4,900 feet to the highest part of the trail around mi. 182 and mi. 186
- [CS0181B - Several campsites - mi 181.3 - 9048 ft] &
- [WR186B - N Fork San Jacinto River Tributary - mi 186.2 - 8947 ft]. from the mi. 174 to mi. 190 is above 8,000 ft.
Weather becomes a problem in certain years making travel extreme for early in the year up to June. Normal moisture is 26.50
2016-2017 with 35.74 and 2018-2019 with 37.10 (February at 17.03 2nd wettest) created many rescues.
Last year 2020-2021 stared warm and dry until the end of Dec. 28. Then three storms at the end of Jan. a lot of snow and low elevations on some of the storms. Snow pack was very small and melted off early and fast.
But still below average amount of moisture. The year came out to a total 11.66.
Last year many fires for closures and late Summer to early Fall (October) closure because of the dangerous conditions for starting of fires.
This year 2021-2022 has a better state with July 2.32 with normal 0.63 but November we had zero with normal 2.35 and December 13 days with a 9.08 inches of moisture and some was snow about 4-5 inches normal is 4.04.
This gives a total 13.27 inches more than the whole last year.
This month January 2022 normal is 4.74) no moisture at 14th with no moisture for the next ten days. This is a normal if December is way over normal as this year. The rest of the year no idea.
The End of Section B:
Hwy10 - Interstate Hwy 10 - mi 209.5 - 1335 ft
Trail Angels are around for the season of Mar. to May.
Places that have some phone numbers are Idyllwild Inn, Silver Pines Lodge, {other places to stay has some limited transporting for their customers}, MountSan Jacinto State Park, San Jacinto Ranger District San Bernardino National Forest, Paradise Valley Cafe, Post Office and Normad Venture.
Locals residents help out too, only ask or put out a thumb with your pack.
Ask Mayor Max went he is in town. see the last part of this section.
Only public Transportation:
Except for the “IDYLLWILD SHUTTLE” on Mon. PALM DESERT & PALM SPRINGS & Wed. HEMET 1 (951) 426-9688 http://www.idyllwildshuttle.com
For other transportation push the button below (the information is on this page).
Start this section by starting at Paradise Valley Cafe
This is the place to get a great start for Section B
It is only one mile west of the hwy 74 crossing.
- To get water
- To get great food
- A place to stay over night
- Great people
- Find out the current trail information
- Transportion by Trail Angels stop here and can cafe staff has numbers to call for rides
- Use this web to call in to res. places to stay [ATT connection and no wi-fi]
- Other great things can happen here
- Sometimes you can see GRUMPY-Steve checking the place out for what is needed
- Just a great place!!!!
Paradise Valley Cafe
1(951-659-3663)
at hwy.74 151.9 mi mark go west one mile
The hours have changed due to the current criss, earlier closing time!!
Order while on the trail, package to go>
Come join us for a wonderful meal in the mountains. Located at the intersection of the 74 and 371 highways in Mountain Center, CA, we welcome Bikers, Hikers, and Horseback riders. Our dog friendly patio is a wonderful place to spend the afternoon. So whether you are coming from the desert, the mountains, or the beach, we are here to offer you the best food in a great environment.
Open daily 8am to 3pm
Can get rides to Idyllwild here by Trail Angels!
Water during opertion hours only - well water.
1 mile W of PCT of the hwy 74 crossing.
Words about - MAYOR MAX Now Mayor Max III Arriving Dec.
Mayor Max, I (the first) visited with Kirsten Garrett of Menifee, California on July 21, 2012.
Mayor Max, II, Deputy Mayor Mitzi, and Deputy Mayor Mikey with Idyllwild visitors, November, 2013
Mayor Max, I (the first) visited with Kirsten Garrett of Menifee, California on July 21, 2012.
Welcome to Mayor Max's website.
Max (Maximus Mighty-Dog Mueller) was voted into office during an election held on June 11, 12, and 13, 2012 in Idyllwild, and was inaugurated to a one-year term on July 1, 2012.
As Idyllwild is a non-incorporated town, it has no human mayor. Idyllwild Animal Rescue Friends (ARF), a non-profit 501(c)(3), spons
Welcome to Mayor Max's website.
Max (Maximus Mighty-Dog Mueller) was voted into office during an election held on June 11, 12, and 13, 2012 in Idyllwild, and was inaugurated to a one-year term on July 1, 2012.
As Idyllwild is a non-incorporated town, it has no human mayor. Idyllwild Animal Rescue Friends (ARF), a non-profit 501(c)(3), sponsored Idyllwild's first-ever mayoral election. Any local resident was permitted to nominate his or her dog or cat. 14 dogs and 2 cats were nominated and ran for office. Constituents cast their votes via $1 donations each, and all $31,000 of the proceeds benefited ARF.
Max won a full two-thirds of the votes, and became Idyllwild's first mayor.
Max's popularity moved the people of Idyllwild to appeal to ARF for his continuation in office beyond his one-year term. On February 9, 2013, ARF announced the extension of his one-year term to a second and final year, ending on June 30, 2014.
On April 2, 2013, Mayor Max passed away. The successor for the remainder of Max's term, Maximus Mighty-Dog Mueller, II, arrived in Idyllwild on July 21, 2013. Idyllwild Animal Rescue Friends approved his mayoral transition plan.
Upon his arrival to Idyllwild, Max was accompanied by two deputy mayors: Mikey and Mitzi (Mikey Mighty-Dog Mueller and Mitzi Marie Mueller). The trio is often referred to as "the Mayor and the spares" or simply "the Mayors of Idyllwild."
Mayor Max, Deputy Mayor Mikey, and Deputy Mayor Mitzi are all related to Mayor Max, I; all four dogs share a common ancestor. Mikey and Mitzi are siblings from the same litter, and Max is a cousin of theirs. Mikey and Mitzi were born in Ohio, and Max was born in California.
In March of 2014, as the June 30 end of Max's term approached, ARF solicited the town's interest in holding another election. Once again, the people overwhelmingly pled for Mayor Max's continuation in perpetuity. Mayor Max and his two deputies, Mikey and Mitzi, continue to serve the town of Idyllwild.
Feel free to contact the Office of Mayor Max of Idyllwild at any time.
Mayor Max, II aka: Maximus Mighty-Dog Mueller, II
Mayor Max, II, Deputy Mayor Mitzi, and Deputy Mayor Mikey with Idyllwild visitors, November, 2013
Mayor Max, I (the first) visited with Kirsten Garrett of Menifee, California on July 21, 2012.
Office of the Mayor of Idyllwild
P.O. Box 1848
Idyllwild, California 92549
1(951) 659-0283 Mayor Headquarters Office
1(949) 525-0100 Phyllis Mueller Mobile
When you come, please be sure we meet! I am in town daily, but always welcome visitors and locals to call and arrange meet-ups.
Mayor Max, II, Deputy Mayor Mitzi, and Deputy Mayor Mikey with Idyllwild visitors, November, 2013
Mayor Max, II, Deputy Mayor Mitzi, and Deputy Mayor Mikey with Idyllwild visitors, November, 2013
Mayor Max, II, Deputy Mayor Mitzi, and Deputy Mayor Mikey with Idyllwild visitors, November, 2013
Job Description
The Idyllwild Mayor shall do his/her best to be a positive representative for the communities of Idyllwild, Pine Cove, Fern Valley, and Mountain Center.
The Mayor shall:
- endeavor to promote this mountain community on and off the Hill.
- support commissioners in their projects.
- strive to be present at community events suc
Job Description
The Idyllwild Mayor shall do his/her best to be a positive representative for the communities of Idyllwild, Pine Cove, Fern Valley, and Mountain Center.
The Mayor shall:
- endeavor to promote this mountain community on and off the Hill.
- support commissioners in their projects.
- strive to be present at community events such as outdoor concerts, festivals, fairs, and the July 4 parade.
- do his/her best to accept invitations for official visits, such as ribbon cuttings, "mixers," etc.
- speak out on behalf of the animals of this mountain, domesticated and non-domesticated.
Has pasted on 2022
Mayor Max III arriving soon - story at
{Idyllwild "Town Crier" Vol. 77 No. 42 Thurs. Oct, 20, 2022}