Pacific Crest Trail Calif. Section B for the Trekkers

Pacific Crest Trail Calif. Section B for the TrekkersPacific Crest Trail Calif. Section B for the TrekkersPacific Crest Trail Calif. Section B for the Trekkers

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Welcome To Pacific Crest Trail Calif Section B Information about Idyllwild

Welcome To Pacific Crest Trail Calif Section B Information about IdyllwildWelcome To Pacific Crest Trail Calif Section B Information about IdyllwildWelcome To Pacific Crest Trail Calif Section B Information about Idyllwild

Welcome -Special-The State & Forest Service Closure UpDate

Sections B & C Was Temporary Closure from March 3 to16 is over for National Forest Service but not for the State Park Still Closed.


PCT Trail was Closed for National Forest:

Section B 149.5 - 206.5 (57) miles Mtn. San Jacinto Area of the 

San Bernardino National Forest open except 

  • Mount San Jacinto State Park - Wilderness {backcountry}  is still Closed: Miles 183-189
    • PCT hikes will need to leave the trail and then get back on:
    • Leave the PCT at Saddle Jct. 179.4 mi & take the Devils Slide Trail 2.5 miles to trail head to Idyllwild 
      • {at the trail head & parking lot must hike down the road about 1/3 mile)  2.5 miles down the Fern Valley road to town
    • Return Back PCT using the Black Mountain Road (RD0191) 7 miles north of Idyllwild on HWY 243
      • Then hike up the road about eight miles to PCT at 190.7 mi
      • this road is closed to vehicle traffic [GATE CLOSED at the Hwy]
      • Check sanjacjon.com for updates of the snow conditions March 17 100% snow coverage of the last three miles at 6-18 inches deep


Section C is open now 234.5 - 361 (126.5 miles) San Bernardino Mountains

US National Forest Service


CONDITIONS:

Spilter Peak Trail & Junction 7047 ft mile 168.6 and

 Fobes Ranch Trail & Junction 6002 ft mile 162.6 


got a lot of snow on March 21-24 added from 4 inches at 4500 ft, Idyllwild around  a foot {now 4-6 inches} above 6000 ft. over two feet. One person called for a ride on Sat. for the conditions were bad posthole and navigation difficulties and he then when to Black Mountain road to hike up to 191 mile.

Past before this storm: Many groups made to Fobes and Spitler Trails and left the  PCT main trail before that last storm (for some it was the wind):

Two groups stated that next 6 miles needs the knowledge of use of special gear for the ice and snow conditions. The ones that called me for pick up:

Spilter Peak Trail   Before March 21-24

  • One person went to the Splitter Peak Junction and turn off, 
  • the other group got beyond only to turn back to Splitter Peak Trail Junction.
  • since that last storm no reports of being travel

Fobes Ranch Trail

  • 3-5 groups left at Fobes Ranch Trail
  • 2 groups when back to Hwy 74
  • One group on 03/26 was in over 30 inches of snow and left at Fobes Ranch Trail and when out at Black Mountain Road to PCT 191 mile

HWY 74

  • noted a few groups came back to the start at this point


Next Storm: 

Wed.-Thur. March 29-30 and at Idyllwild 5200 ft. Wed. rain then snow  thur. less than the last storm - The amount has change manay times

Watch out the last storm was more than the weather people said it would! It was a wet snow measured out at my house 4.5 moisture and above 6000 ft. moisture of 4.5 inches can be over feet of snow. 03/26/2023


NOTE: CHECK OUT THE: *UPDATE*

 SPILTER PEAK TRAIL JUNCTION 168.6 MI 7047 FT 

{Apple Canyon Road was flooded just before the Highway 74 at 6-8 inches), but now the water way was cleaned out and flowing through the two Coverts. 03/27/2023 


NOTE: CHECK OUT THE:

BLACK MOUNTAIN ROAD TO 190.7 MI 7689 FT  FOR ALTERNATE TRAIL ROUTES - TRAIL SECTION FOR DETAILS.  [VS. 8000+ FT]


This area of high elevation and areas were sunlight is more limited because the direction it faces  between here {Spilter Peak} to Tahquitz Valley is where rescue for badly injured and even death. 


This area of higher elevation and of heavy snow pack of a year with major weather storms {past six feet or more} [this snow pack can last into June].


In Idyllwild This month:

March 1 was about 20 inches of snow made 30 inches plus on the ground.

March 10 & 11 was a two inches of rain up and beyond the 8,000 feet melting snow

March 14 & 15 was a two & half inches of rain up to 8,000 feet, but the snow level is slowly dropping. 

March 21-24 had rain followed by 8 inches snow then later 4 more inches of snow over night {Total Moisture at my house in Idyllwild was over four inches}.



The Total this month [March] is 11.54 inches total moisture and 33 inches snow. 

(I do the old year measure [July 1 to June 30] our total for Idyllwild 0ver 42+ inches total moisture this year and amount of 90 inches of snow). 

[Total Moisture is melted down snow water and fallen rainwater.]


  • You have to go back to 2004-2005 to find a large amount at 40.65 {July 1 to June 30}
  • 2010-2011 was 30.34 Inches  {July 1 to June 30}
  • 2016-2017 was 35.10 inches  {July 1 to June 30} Feb.14 {by 8am to 8am the old way} was over 9 inches - New Way at 5pm it was 7 inches
  • 2018-2019 was 37.10 inches  {July 1 to June 30}
  • I learned the old way like it was done for over hundred years until recent:
    • I believe it was the congress changed for they can get summer recess on their time schedule since they could not finished the next year budget!!!!! 
    • New dates now start Oct. 1  [I have data back to 1929-1930 and I will not change for those non-scientist]  Normal is 26.43 inches
    • The 12th atmospheric river [us local old people remember that we call it the "Pineapple Express" coming from Hawaii of the Tropical Pacific Ocean, which was named before satellites!!]


For Wilderness PCT conditions go to San Jacinto Trail Report

Details Here ---- https://www.sanjacjon.com "independently run by Jon King" for trail information

Welcome - Content of the Site -with Transportation and Mayor

WELCOME TO THE IDYLLWILD AREA - SECTION B All Trails and Roads Open

This website is made and update by the owner known as Grumpy.


Welcome page with information with the next Section Contents:

  • Trail & Water Current Conditions & website
  • Transportation Short & Long
  • On PCT to - Exit/Entry for Section B
  • About This Site
  • Paradise Valley Cafe
  • Mayor Max 


*MAJOR CHANGE: For Grumpy's transportation

  • Section below "Need Transportation for short trips to/from trailheads or long trips?:"


WELCOME TO THE IDYLLWILD AREA - SECTION B - Content Topics

Welcome to Section B.       Hope this site can be helpful to you.  

Nov. 2022, this SITE had some changes because of some business changed ownership or out of Business befor the season of 2023. 

Idyllwild is always changing, going thru the places listed to get better information on each.  


With the COVID-19 all still around but no requirements. 


A website on Idyllwild - called "Idyllwild, California" which has Translate website www.idyllwildcalifornia.com maybe help for you but with translations - has limited information. 


We have lost a few business that I marked TEMPORARY or  PERMANENTLY CLOSED.  


This website is to help you to your needs.  

Use the bars at the top for the section of the list below:

  • Home  - This Section
    • TRAIL & WATER Current Condition & Web sites
    • Need Transportation for short trailheads & long trips
    • About This Site Philosophy and Idyllwild Area
    • Start this section by starting at Paradise Valley Cafe
    • Words about - MAYOR MAX


  • Place to Stay
    • they are listed by distance from the center of town to outwards
      • IDYLLWILD INN, SILVER PINES LODGE, IDYLLWILD BUNKHOUSE, FIRESIDE INN, & BLUEBIRD COTTAGE INN, these were the main ones open last 2021 serving the PCT hikers during COVID-19
    • Others reopened in 2022 and new ownership for two. 


  • Place to Eat: 
    • They are listed in groups of same type of business (restaurants, cafe ...etc.)
      • Most locations have indoor seating and with outside covered/open
      • Some only have window service Inside or outside for only for take-out.
    • Most locations can be order in person, or call in and/or web for take out
    • days and hours open does change by many factors so {call first}


  • Stores 
    • groceries stores, equipment, boots, clothes, and gifts
    • Nomad Ventures for Mountain Equipag - gear and etc. 
    • most stores are open


  • Services - 
    • Government
      • Government Parks - US Forest, State, & County
    • Government: Others
      •  Fire Department, Library & Post Office
    • Business: Shipping
      • Miss Sunshine Container & Shipping
    • Business: Medical & other:
      • Medical Services:  Doctor (1), Dentist (2) 
      • and Pharmacy
      • Medical other Massage, Chiropractic, & Acupuncture
    • Other Business:
      • Hair Care, Laundry & Local Shuttle


  • Trail Info   - go to this section for details Including Desciption of  Section B
    • Exit/Entry Trail, Alternate Route & maps
    • with Four Alternate Routes  - Because of weather and/or trail condition


  • Trail History for 2013 to 2021 
    • Fire (2013 & 2015 major closures), Rock Fall (the big one -May 2019 to June 2021), and Weather - Roads damaged from a major rainfall (the big one day Feb. 14, 2019 eight plus inches)
    • also it effect the roads - closed and/or one-way traffic for repair


  • Friendly
    • Transportion for off the mountain


Check the end of this section for information about MAYOR Max

  • Mayor Max III takes office Dec. 10, 2022




TRAIL & WATER Current Condition & Web sites for Sect B -All roads are open! and Trails are Open!

  • Trail Problems & Closures:


There has been trail problems and closure from 2013 to the beginning of 2021 other than normal winter time weather conditions includes; fires closures areas, rock slides, down trees, storm washouts of trail & road, COVID closures/requirments.   2022 season problems where heat and lack of water [one person did die in Anza area].  see the history of 2013-2021 section.


{Note: that summer time California had more than normal summer weather include at hurricane turn to major topical storm.  The end of July Whitney Portal and Onion Valley trail head roads where damage and closed for one to two weeks.  Even Death Valley got flooded and closed down twice.}


Temporary Closure Listed above for the: 

San Bernardino National Forest Closure March 3 to March 16

  • Includes the State Park Wilderness - In the San Jacinto Mountain is still Closed
  • related to the February Storms and public safety due to high snowfall and potentially hazardous conditions


All trails are open as of April 3, 2021!!  

All roads in the area have been repaired Jan. 2021

COVID NO requirements.  

For others conditions:


PCT Water Report

https://pctwater.com

Twitter PCT weather updates can be sent by SMS to your phone if you text “follow @pctwx to 40404” even if you don’t have a twitter account.  also, can get a print out at the Idyllwild Library.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gEyz3bw__aPvNXpqqHcs7KRwmwYrTH2L0DEMW3RbHes/export?format=pdf&portrait=true

Part One this will download to a pdf file


"San Jacinto Trail Report"   

https://www.sanjacjon.com   (Section B Only) Trail reports conditions, and water

"independently run by Jon King"

Jon makes this report does this by his labor and time is volunteered, the San Jacinto Trail Report (completely depends on small private donations to cover operating cost). The Donate page can be found on his report just at the end of the day report. (Zelle, Venmo, and PayPal)

  • He started making a trail report (hard copy) bulletins that Jon provided to local rangers to distribute to hikers.

He received a local award  "Ernie Maxwell Community Spirit Award 2022"  Recipient   

  • The award is given to recognize, effect on the community. The honor is given to an inidividual or group who represents EMax's spirit of community and volunteerism.  Prior awardees took actions that created a spark sufficient to bring others into the fray just as Maxwell did with his activities involving the environment. {go to the story about Jon King for more}
    • Idyllwild "Town Crier" Vol. 77 No. 42 Thurs. Oct, 20, 2022}


A GUIDE TO THIS FIRST SECTION

Need Transportation for short trips to/from trailheads or long trips?:

Need Transportation for short trips to/from trailheads or long trips: around problems  areas [like closure or trail problem like weather], places to lodge, supplies, food, or medical?

Find out more

About This Site

Philosophy of This Site.

The Paths We Travel - Idyllwild


Find out more by pressing here

Start this section by starting at Paradise Valley Cafe

This is the place to get a great start for Section B.

A place on the Hwy 74 just one mile from the PCT mi. 151.

A place to find rides to/from Idyllwild and other place. 

{Before you head for the high wilderness above 8,000 ft.}

Find out more about Paradise Valley Cafe

Words about - MAYOR MAX [Now Mayor Max III]

As Idyllwild is a non-incorporated town, it has no human mayor. Upon his arrival to Idyllwild, in the past was"Max was accompanied by two deputy mayors: Mikey and Mitzi (Mikey Mighty-Dog Mueller and Mitzi Marie Mueller)." The change a new and younger Max "Max III"  with his sister and started His duties on Dec. 10, 2022 after the passing of Max II.  

Find out more press here - Mayor Max

Transportation for short to/from trailheads or long trips

Local persons that are Trail Angels for transportation of the mountain areas, trailheads and town:

These names say that they do transportation in this area. I can not verify and not responsible for their actions and services.


*Grumpy  transportation (951) 500-5954 Free- Will that Tips  Check below for available


Herk       (951) 850-3746    Free

Marcia    (951) 357-8509   (Tues/Wed/Thur)

Cierra     (951) 322-2981   Before 10:00 am


Steve's Transportation Service  1(702) 595-2502 $(see below also long distance)


Idyllwild Services (951) 204-7895 No Saturdays $(see below also long distance)


Peal Car (951) 223-5812    24 hours local


Next section has a listing of roadways to leave this area:

  • Exit/Entry locations to major road travel

*Grumpy: Oh yes this is my website!! Starting my sixth year for driving Service for PCTers

 MAJOR CHANGE: For Grumpy Trail Angel Service is:   Still Free but will take tips!!! 

  • 7 days a week  - 7am to 7pm  {Sunday: 7am & 8am trips then from Noon to 6pm)
  • North Bound: March 10 up to Memorial day weekend. 
    • Minus holidays and vacation time. {April 3-7.}
  • South Bound: Mid-October to New Years day. 
    • Minus holidays and vacation time. Vacation time is the Thanksgiving
  • Coverage from mile 151 Hwy 74 to Black Mountain Road at Hwy 243.
    • Trailheads including: 
      • Cedar Springs Trail  to PCT mi. 162.6
      • Spitler Trail  to PCT mi. 168.6 
      • Humber Park - Devil's Slide trail to mi.179.4
    • Road crossing at Hwys:
      • Hwy 74 and Fobes Ranch Road  to PCT 166.5
      • Hwy 243 and Black Mountain Road to PCT mi. 190.7
    • Town of Idyllwild  - Stops at: Central (the park & Monument), Post Office, & Places to Stay
    • Paradise Valley Cafe  My hang out spot

Go to the section on Trail Info for details of these locations


1(951) 500-5954  talk or text only   --no email  --no VoiceMail   

Will take a day in advance reservation by text.


Local persons that do rides for a price [Fee] off the mountain area:

These names say that they do transportation in this area. I can not verify and not responsible for their actions and services.


Steve's Transportation Service  1(702) 595-2502

  • Local trailheads
  • Idyllwild to Banning or I-10 Trailhead PCT
  • Other long distance locations - such as Airports


Idyllwild Transport (951) 265-6755

  • Airports ONT & PSP


Terri French 1(619) 933-2306 {rates vary} plan ahead a set a time

  • Idyllwild to Banning or I-10 Trailhead PCT 
  • to airports like at Palm Springs


Idyllwild Services  (951) 204-7895

  • Local trailheads
  • No Saturday
  • Start as early 7:30    &  Last  pick-up at 6:30
  • Airport/Bus Runs


Pearl Car Service 1 (951) 223-5812

  • Idyllwild to Banning-I-10 Trailhead PCT 
  • or other locations


Les 1(858) 866-6490  

  • Airport only  (LAX-SD-PS-ONY)


Next section has a listing of roadways to leave this area.

Off the Mountain Transportation Service:

This is just a listing of a company off the mountain say it does service to this area.


Discount Cab    Taxi    Valley Cab  Banning

1 (951) 228-6858

  • Plan ahead to set a time
  • up to seven
  • Idylwild to Banning Or I-10 Trailhead PCT
    • (around $75 price)


Other Ideas to look at:

There are Trail Angles for local trips and just a thumb with a pack gets friendly local residents -  money not required but most will except tips. 

  •  Check around with the Lodging place have numbers of people to help out 


Talk to people for other possibilities.  Like Grumpy.


If need to leave the mountain area by hitching go to Paradise Cafe on Hwy 74 East - takes down to the Hwy 111 Palm Desert for other transportation!! It is about 25 miles.


gothook?? new name this year ownership change "FarOut"  

{watch out for not updated all the information - some are not up data for years ago}

On PCT to - Exit/Entry for Section B

Exit/Entry locations to major road travel

   

Roads that you can use to pass around this of PCT Section B {of Idyllwild} or protions of the area other than hiking are:


[A] Hwy 74 at 

Paradise Valley

turn on to Hwy 371 then 

West on Hwy 79 to 

Temecula

[Interstate 15]


[B] Hwy 74 at 

Paradise Valley 

East on Hwy 74 to 

Palm Desert & Palm Springs to

[Hwy 111/Interstate 10]


[C] Hwy 74 at 

Mountain Center

West on Hwy 74 to 

Hemet  

[Interstate 215]


[D] Hwy 243 at 

Mountain Center

North  @ Hwy 74 thru Idyllwild to

Banning.  

[Interstate 10]


[E] Hwy 243 at 

Idyllwild 

North on Hwy 243 to 

Banning

[Interstate 10] 


[F] Int-10 at 

Banning

East to Palm Springs or

West to Los Angles



Whitewater Canyon Road is open again after washout 2019 and due to the CVID-19 Closed during crisis!!

As a result, the Whitewater Preserve is open for day use {my last timed checked Feb. 2021}, according to the Wildlands Conservancy.

Then open for PCT hikers with staying over night.


1  (760) 325-7222

https://www.wildlandsconservancy.org/preserve_whitewater.html



Find out more - Area of Sec. B and Trailheads

About This Site

Philosophy of This Site.

I developed this site to help your trip in this section of the PCT.   After a hundred plus miles from the south is my main focus {south to north} with many needs can develop on your challenge or a journey.  Resupplying, replacing, and resting is the needed to complete the journey and hopefully without many instances.


The town of Idyllwild has services, stores, places to stay and friendly people who are willing to assist you towards your goal. 


Oh, I am Steve.  But I go by "GRUMPY" on and off the trail.  It's not just a mood it's a lifestyle.  I am not an trail angel, but an Angel Assistant and a section B web master.  {44 years lived in Idyllwild}  see Friendly People Section


Below picture, a look Eastward towards the town of Idyllwild at 5,397 ft. with the center part above the lowest part of the PCT in view at mi 179.4 - 8139 ft.


The Paths We Travel - Idyllwild

Some 180 or so miles from the boarder is the town of Idyllwild.  I first seen this town before my teen years in the early 1960's.  Since then I kept returning to enjoy the area and the high country unit May of 1978 which it became home.


SECTION B:

California Section B - 100 miles

Start - Hwy 79, mile 109.5   3,030 ft [near Warner Springs]

End - Hwy Interstate  10, mile 209.5  1,335 ft [near Cabazon]

Highest point at 9,048


The travel on the PCT after crossing Hwy. 74 at the 152 mile mark the route changes with elevation changes thru a mountain range of the San Jacinto with a peak  10,834 feet.  The Pacific Crest Trail travels round the peak on the west side up to 9,000+ feet. You start at Hwy 74 crossing mi. 151 at 4,900 feet to the highest part of the trail around mi. 182 and mi. 186

  • [CS0181B - Several campsites - mi 181.3 - 9048 ft]  & 
  • [WR186B - N Fork San Jacinto River Tributary - mi 186.2 - 8947 ft]. from the mi. 174 to mi. 190 is above 8,000 ft. 


Weather becomes a problem in certain years making travel extreme for early in the year up to June.       Normal moisture is 26.3  Since 1929-1930

The extremes is the only way to understand the climate in Southern California:

  • Lowest is in 2001-2002 record of 9.60 inches
    • breaking the old record in 1960-1961 of 10.59 in.
  • The highest is in 1936-1937 record 54.92 in. ( a period of 11 years of at normal or above  [7 of them])
  • the second highest was closest on 1982-1983 at a 54.86 inches
  • Most recent since the 2004-2005 of 40.65:
    • 2016-2017 with 35.74 and 
    • 2018-2019 with 37.10 (February at 17.03 2nd wettest) created many rescues.
    • 2022-2023 is at about 32 inches of moisture and 70 or so of snow fall at March 2   will up date 


{PCT 2021} Climate year 2020-2021 stared warm and dry until the end of Dec. 28.  Then three storms at the end of Jan. a lot of snow and low elevations on some of the storms.   Snow pack was very small and melted off early and fast.

  • The year came out to a total 11.6 one of a hand full the lowest moisture.
  • Was the year of many fires for closures and late Summer to early Fall (October) closure because of the dangerous conditions for starting of fires for many places [note was reopen for a few southbound to come back to trail to finish].


{PCT 2022} climate year 2021-2022 has a better state with July 2.32 with normal 0.63 but November we had zero with normal 2.35 and then the moisture are most stopped. Next three months less than 1/3 of normal not and drying up the water sources.


{PCT 2023} Climate year 2022-2023 year with rain through the summer into the Autumn September had a hurricane came up off in the water towards Southern Calif. bring that month up to 3.46 inches and with a twice the normal November. Then came January with almost 14 inches of moisture:

  •  Jul-Jan was a total of 26.9 inches of moisture which is the normal for July to June average.
  • February the weather data had missed on four important days of most of the weather of Feb. only 1.7 reported I had over 4 inches should be over 4 inches moisture 
  • March 1-  24   11.2 inches of moisture with total moisture is about  inches over 42  for the year
  • Jon King reports about 90 inches of snow for this year
  • March show one more system March 29 about half to one inch of moisture


The End of Section B:

Hwy10 - Interstate Hwy 10 - mi 209.5 - 1335 ft 


Trail Angels are around for the season of Mar. to May.

Find some of the phone numbers can be found here and some have number some phone numbers like the place to stay at Paradise Valley Cafe (many just show up) and Normad Venture.  

  • There are many locals help out when they can - like driving to or coming from home or go to a store. So Thumbs out!!
  • Locals residents and visitors will help out too, only ask or put out a thumb with your pack.
  • Ask Mayor Max went he is in town - even he will. see the last part of this section.


Only public Transportation:

Except for the “IDYLLWILD SHUTTLE” on Mon. PALM DESERT & PALM SPRINGS & Wed. HEMET 1 (951) 426-9688    http://www.idyllwildshuttle.com


For other transportation push the button below (the information is on this page).

 

Find out more at Long Distance Transportation

Start this section by starting at Paradise Valley Cafe

This is the place to get a great start for Section B

It is only one mile west of the hwy 74 crossing.

  • To get water
  • To get great food
  • A place to stay over night
  • Great people
  • Find out the current trail information
  • Transportion by Trail Angels stop here and can cafe staff has numbers to call for rides
  • Use this web to call in to res. places to stay  [ATT connection and no wi-fi]
  • Other great things can happen here
  • Sometimes you can see GRUMPY-Steve checking the place out for what is needed
    • Grumpy does one day round trip to Idyllwild - also helps carry orders from Nomand Ventures or Post Office or left objects from taking {camp, places eating, resting, or  rides/walking in his area: services
  • Just a great place!!!!  

New for 2023 season is a place across the is a house with special angel with:

  • equipment like TreVor Spikes Program & ice axe from Nomand Ventures
  • a place to stay
  • a place to wash your clothes


Paradise Valley Cafe

www.theparadisevalleycafe.com     

1(951-659-3663)   

at hwy.74 151.9 mi mark go west one mile


Order while on the trail, package to go>

Come join for a wonderful meal in the mountains. Located at the intersection of the 74 and 371 highways in Mountain Center, CA, we welcome Bikers, Hikers, and Horseback riders. Our dog friendly patio is a wonderful place to spend the afternoon. So whether you are coming from the desert, the mountains, or the beach, we are here to offer you the best food in a great environment.


Open daily:

Sunday 8am to 7pm

Mon-Tue 8am-3pm

Wed-Sat 8am-8pm


Can get rides to Idyllwild for here by Trail Angels!  

Water during opertion hours only - well water.

1 mile W of PCT of the hwy 74 crossing.

Words about - MAYOR MAX Now Mayor Max III Arriving Dec.

Mayor Max, I (the first) visited with Kirsten Garrett of Menifee, California on July 21, 2012.

Mayor Max, II, Deputy Mayor Mitzi, and Deputy Mayor Mikey with Idyllwild visitors, November, 2013

Mayor Max, II, Deputy Mayor Mitzi, and Deputy Mayor Mikey with Idyllwild visitors, November, 2013

Welcome to Mayor Max's website.

Max (Maximus Mighty-Dog Mueller) was voted into office during an election held on June 11, 12, and 13, 2012 in Idyllwild, and was inaugurated to a one-year term on July 1, 2012.

As Idyllwild is a non-incorporated town, it has no human mayor. Idyllwild Animal Rescue Friends (ARF), a non-profit 501(c)(3), spons

Welcome to Mayor Max's website.

Max (Maximus Mighty-Dog Mueller) was voted into office during an election held on June 11, 12, and 13, 2012 in Idyllwild, and was inaugurated to a one-year term on July 1, 2012.

As Idyllwild is a non-incorporated town, it has no human mayor. Idyllwild Animal Rescue Friends (ARF), a non-profit 501(c)(3), sponsored Idyllwild's first-ever mayoral election. Any local resident was permitted to nominate his or her dog or cat. 14 dogs and 2 cats were nominated and ran for office. Constituents cast their votes via $1 donations each, and all $31,000 of the proceeds benefited ARF. 

Max won a full two-thirds of the votes, and became Idyllwild's first mayor.

Max's popularity moved the people of Idyllwild to appeal to ARF for his continuation in office beyond his one-year term. On February 9, 2013, ARF announced the extension of his one-year term to a second and final year, ending on June 30, 2014.

On April 2, 2013, Mayor Max passed away. The successor for the remainder of Max's term, Maximus Mighty-Dog Mueller, II, arrived in Idyllwild on July 21, 2013. Idyllwild Animal Rescue Friends approved his mayoral transition plan.

Upon his arrival to Idyllwild, Max was accompanied by two deputy mayors: Mikey and Mitzi (Mikey Mighty-Dog Mueller and Mitzi Marie Mueller). The trio is often referred to as "the Mayor and the spares" or simply "the Mayors of Idyllwild."

Mayor Max, Deputy Mayor Mikey, and Deputy Mayor Mitzi are all related to Mayor Max, I; all four dogs share a common ancestor. Mikey and Mitzi are siblings from the same litter, and Max is a cousin of theirs. Mikey and Mitzi were born in Ohio, and Max was born in California.

In March of 2014, as the June 30 end of Max's term approached, ARF solicited the town's interest in holding another election. Once again, the people overwhelmingly pled for Mayor Max's continuation in perpetuity. Mayor Max and his two deputies, Mikey and Mitzi, continue to serve the town of Idyllwild.

Feel free to contact the Office of Mayor Max of Idyllwild at any time.

Mayor Max, II, Deputy Mayor Mitzi, and Deputy Mayor Mikey with Idyllwild visitors, November, 2013

Mayor Max, II, Deputy Mayor Mitzi, and Deputy Mayor Mikey with Idyllwild visitors, November, 2013

Mayor Max, II, Deputy Mayor Mitzi, and Deputy Mayor Mikey with Idyllwild visitors, November, 2013

Job Description

The Idyllwild Mayor shall do his/her best to be a positive representative for the communities of Idyllwild, Pine Cove, Fern Valley, and Mountain Center.

The Mayor shall:

-  endeavor to promote this mountain community on and off the Hill.

-  support commissioners in their projects.

-  strive to be present at community events suc

Job Description

The Idyllwild Mayor shall do his/her best to be a positive representative for the communities of Idyllwild, Pine Cove, Fern Valley, and Mountain Center.

The Mayor shall:

-  endeavor to promote this mountain community on and off the Hill.

-  support commissioners in their projects.

-  strive to be present at community events such as outdoor concerts, festivals, fairs, and the July 4 parade.

-  do his/her best to accept invitations for official visits, such as ribbon cuttings, "mixers," etc.

-  speak out on behalf of the animals of this mountain, domesticated and non-domesticated.


Has pasted on 2022


Mayor Max III arriving soon - story at

{Idyllwild "Town Crier" Vol. 77 No. 42 Thurs. Oct, 20, 2022}

Mayor Max, III aka: Maximus Mighty-Dog Mueller, III

Mayor Max, II, Deputy Mayor Mitzi, and Deputy Mayor Mikey with Idyllwild visitors, November, 2013

Mayor Max, III aka: Maximus Mighty-Dog Mueller, III

Office of the Mayor of Idyllwild

P.O. Box 1848

Idyllwild, California  92549

1(951) 659-0283 Mayor Headquarters Office

1(949) 525-0100 Phyllis Mueller Mobile

max@mayormax.com

www.mayormax.com


On September 5, 2022, Mayor Max, III was born. He arrived home on November 6, 2022, along with his sister, Meadow. Mayor Max, III's debut to Idyllwild and c

Office of the Mayor of Idyllwild

P.O. Box 1848

Idyllwild, California  92549

1(951) 659-0283 Mayor Headquarters Office

1(949) 525-0100 Phyllis Mueller Mobile

max@mayormax.com

www.mayormax.com


On September 5, 2022, Mayor Max, III was born. He arrived home on November 6, 2022, along with his sister, Meadow. Mayor Max, III's debut to Idyllwild and commencement of duties was on December 10, 2022.


Mayor Max, III continues to serve the town of Idyllwild, along with Vice Mayor Meadow, Deputy Mayor Mikey, and Deputy Mayor Mitzi.


When you come, please be sure we meet! I am in town daily, but always welcome visitors and locals to call and arrange meet-ups.

Press here for Mayor Max web page

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